Question Time with Mantastic – October 2020


The general gist of Question Time posts are for players to ask various PAD-related questions that do not have a simple/Google-able answer or related article on my website. I do play other games and have often found myself having specific/unique questions about it but have no where to go and can imagine this may hold true for some of my readers.

With that being said, there will be some restrictions on the types of questions I will be answering.

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Do’s and Don’t

download For the most part, almost any question will be answered, even some non-invasive Off-Topic ones; however, it is best to ask questions that require explanation/why/my personal opinion. The following examples are Fantastic types of questions to ask:

  • Of these options, what is the best Yusuke team I can make for Arena 3?
  • What direction do you think GungHo will take with the 4x HP leads?
  • Can Heart Cross teams be revived and if so, how?

x The following types of questions will not be answered by me either because it has a simple Google-able answer or shows a lack of effort on the reader’s part:

  • Anything that Google/Padx can answer
  • A link to your entire Monster Box and saying “make me a team”


I hope my readers use this opportunity to ask questions that will hopefully improve their overall game play and progression.

Happy Puzzling!

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48 thoughts on “Question Time with Mantastic – October 2020”

  1. I don’t have a question, just dropping by to say thanks for all the reviews and insights on PAD. Stay safe and healthy!


    1. Thoughts on the state of norza x yomi? I don’t see many yomi helpers for my norza so I’m wondering if I should try to roll for something that is meta (or save for the next meta). Also follow up question, is double norza as optimal as norza x yomi? Appreciate the content!


      1. Norza wants to pair with someone else to grant more Effective HP and yomi is a popular choice due to the Auto Follow Up Attack component

        But recently with Monster Hunter, Velkhana paired with Norza (with Norza sub) is quite efficient as the Effective HP and damage drastically go up but you do lose out on Auto Follow Up Attack


  2. I’m getting to the point where I need to get specific gems for my first Super Reincarnations. For example, I need Senri’s gem for Amaterasu. What would typically be the best way to obtain these gems? I know you can get in these ways:

    Clear Senri descended to get Senri as a drop, and then collect a huge amount of different materials including evolving a lot of other monsters for the many monster exchange gems needed.
    Hope for a drop from Senri descended. Seems the drop rate is pretty low
    Try to exchange for the gem from someone? What would be a fair exchange? I only have Valkyrie Rose and Sol & Mani gems for 8-star.
    Some gems show up on the monster exchange shop for Rainbow medals. Is this random?

    I’m not sure I can actually clear Senri descended yet. I’m using a makeshift Remu team, but I don’t have enough HP to survive the 39k pre-emptive.


    1. There’s a padx discord as well as mantastic. If you are really struggling to get specific gems, just offer a bunch of + points and high level players will usually give you one in exchange for the pluses


      1. ^ This is a fantastic idea and I would encourage you joining Discord servers to connect with other players.

        Also, pluses tend to be the universal trading currency =)


  3. Hey Mantastic,

    Thanks for the tireless efforts as always. With the seeming increase in blob/match x connected leaders, would you say that combo orb awakenings are useful yet?


      1. I’m no mantastic either, but I love combo orbs on my nidhogg farming team! I have 4 combo orb awakenings and several ways to make 10-12 orb blobs, so combo shields are no problem.


        1. I feel combo orbs as a whole are going to lag behind VDP as it offers a significant increase in damage (and ability to piece Voids) while also using less orbs

          Combo Orbs are more orb hungry and their benefit/effect does not help you now, only next turn (or if skyfalled) along with the total boost being much less compared to a card owning VDP

          With that being said, farming set ups like Erland do work wonders but for arena-style content, I feel it will need a rework to catch up


          1. Late reply but I have been farming the hell out of things lately.

            On content that doesn’t really push your teams to the limit, think reasonable BVeroah vs Nidhogg and Senri this month in NA, you just don’t need a VDP to kill. So you can bust the VDP with a 10th orb or even just blob it when you are running a system, and sometimes keep those extra for either combo high combo shields or extra damage or just more pretty sparkles when making your blob or VDP.

            Not much use in serious play I suspect unless given to you in certain dungeons, but if you are being lazy and big blobs kill your content anyway they are a little amusing.


  4. What is your opinion on the 30-turn cooldowns of the transforming Key Heroes’ actives before transformation? Also, does Pirate Toragon have any value?


    1. Pirate Toragon is a solid lead for 5* challenges. Throw some Sacred Relic or Monster Hunter dragon 5* and clear.

      Lampy admittedly better but on the alt who got stuck earlier a few floors from winning and that was started after Sacred Relic, T x T between the extra move time to combo hard and easy 36x multiplier plus their 10x awakening, chewed through the remaining three floors to finish out on the last day. Happy coincidence that timing haha.


    2. 30 turn transform cards are technically not new (look at Grandis) and it will all come down to how usable the card is pre-transform as to whether or not it can be efficiently used


      1. My thoughts on the more specific 30 turn CD for Key Heroes, it is mitigated by the 3 SB that each Key Hero provides. I personally don’t like Menit as a key hero because of her transformed active and her kit overall. However, nearly every other hero has a very basic pre-transform kit and a decent LS (for example Greyon with 2/16/1 with a 35% hp-conditional shield). In my opinion, GungHo compensated for this 30 CD with a pretty good pre-transform LS and a basic awakening kit.


        1. They are mostly geared towards longer dungeons or maybe coop with the 30 turn transform time,

          Same thing with Grandis as Mantastic pointed out, I tried him for giggles in a few places not named Arena or Shura and he never got up in time for the clear.


  5. Hi Man,

    On your Optimal Boards page you mention, “For the most part, utilizing a bicolour board is the best way to optimize your potential as it usually yields the highest number of combos along with the most concentrated damage.”

    I’d love to learn more about this; I’ve never run a bicolor team. If you have a few examples of good bicolor base teams, that would be interesting.


    1. What I mean by that is using bicolour actives for final kill boards tend to be the most efficient as it produces the most reliable amount of useful orbs

      As such, there is no “bicolour team” just cards who use these types of actives =)

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  6. hi mantastic, what’s the ideal button team to farm event/collab medals? 5/5/5/5 to exchange for one assist is really annoying!


    1. The ideal team is using as many buttons for as many floors as possible. One thing that may help you is farming the male nergigante hunter who has an aoe button. May not always work but having more options is never a bad thing


  7. Is there any end game content that barbara and julie leads can’t clear? after struggling to clear vidar, brahma, raziel etc, i finally traded for b&j and she’s like a swiss army knife. There should be a beginners guide that lists her as the must have/easy activate leader, for whom you should trade your mother-in-law


    1. Barbara & Julie is pretty garbage now, you won’t get past A6/AA4 without serious difficulty running B&J, not to mention Illusory.

      It’s great that you found so much use with her, but she won’t last in the endgame.


      1. A lead that can take a new account to the current 2nd highest tier of content sucks?

        Color me skeptical on that front. Yeah BPlanar x B&J is not one of the top flight combinations but newish accounts and players aren’t going to leap right into the highest level of content straight away; just missing too many things even if Shura is less resist intensive than some of the top Arenas.


        1. I absolutely agree with Revelate. Although I am not a B&J/BPlanar user myself, I have used BPlanar as a sub and have absolutely loved her awakenings and her active as well. I have heard that BPlanar/B&J can clear AA4 and I speculate it is mainly due to BPlanar’s excellent active, which counters Odindra and other recurring ABind/unmatchable hazard effects. BPlanar/B&J may be able to clear Shura, if it can pack enough VDP damage.


  8. Do you have any other ideas about leads/teams for the Shura realm? I have Dante (missing Duval), Fasca, Yugi, and Anna Kyoyama teams. I’m struggling with my Dante/Remu team. I have other leaders, but these are the leaders I have been using recently. I don’t have Norza or that other blue lead that pairs with Norza.


    1. Let me be a little more specific, as this was sort of a large question to answer. These are my current teams: Dante, suou, pixel guan yu, polowne, sky splitting sonya. Alternates i have that i use for this team are dantalion, shiomi, nakaruru, anna kyoyama, and grandis. For my yugi team I have Yugi, dark Yugi, magician, hiei, and winged dragon. Alternates for this team are diachan, genjuro. My fasca team includes asuna, goury, karin, and kanna.

      I need help with figuring out what assists i need, what cards i’m missing or what latents i need in general…thats all lol


      1. Read this after but you need to Transform right away and have a way to mitigate the skill delay

        For dante/remu you must have either a 2 turn colour absorb or another 1 turn to overcome Denbola’s absorb + Super resolve. You have 1 turn from Polowne so need one more. Ideally it is Captain’s Cloak

        Yugi teams need to be able to heal up as they should be able to absorb damage but should be aware of the large gravity (150% HP) preemptive from Raphael who will always appear

        In general, you need lots of burst, strong VDP damage, and high Effective HP and RCV


    2. Dante + Remu is well suited for SR due to damage, Effective HP, and favourable colour

      With that being said, it is a difficult dungeon and much harder to build in solo

      You also need to be mindful of the preemptive skill delay on floor 1 for Transforming teams

      Yugi teams can perform well assuming you have sufficient RCV to heal back up after tanking a hit


        1. If anything, coop should be easier for any team that relies on Transforming cards as SA does not apply

          Thus, Remu x Dante will probably be easier due to the faster time it takes Grandis to Transform and more HP


    3. If you’re looking for a first time clear, there’s a youtube vid with a woodsie cheese team. it’s mostly farmable, although you do need a two turn damage absorb or void damage void.


  9. Do you see any value in Zelenbus (either in its evolved or equipment form)? I’ve gotten 2, enough to make the equipment (which I plan to leave unskilled) and I’m wondering if it’s worth farming more.


    1. I don’t feel they have much value in their Evolved form and their weapon will be a huge boon to Zeus Dios farming builds if that appeals to you

      Also, there is no harm in farming more for Gems as you will probably need them in the future


    1. Those are really the best places as the always available + Point Cave is not efficient

      If you are hungering for +s, I would try to jump on any of the events or LTD that feature them as it will yield more pluses per stamina


  10. Hey Mantastic – think your Sin Dragon review (and hopefully explanation of how this ridiculous event works) will top Monster Hunter in word count?


  11. Hey Mantastic, I have been reading your posts for a while, they have helped me out quite a bit. I wanted to say thanks. If you happen to have friend space my in game is Copperleaf


  12. Hello Mantastic! I have a couple of questions. First, I seen in one of your previous streams that you max leveled an assist card, I was curious to know if there was any benefit to doing so? I tried searching it up and seen some information about same attribute or type bonuses for stat boosts or something but I am still unsure. The second question would be for leader skills that give boosts to 2 types (such as Amlynea for Attacker and Healers, or Nelle D/B). In order to get the full “buff”, would the subs need to be both types or an attacker would receive just as much boosts compared to an attacker/healer? Thank you!


    1. Max level and +297 an Assist provides a small amount of bonus stats to the owning card if they are the same colour. It can make a modest difference if all Assists are done this way and helps in challenging content

      As for the 2 typings, most leader skills/abilities only need one of the two and having a card with both types will not confer additional benefits =)


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