Please refer to the Master List for directory to the other pantheons and their analysis.
Take a look at my Popular Leaders and their Full Sub List post for inspiration on team building ideas. If contemplating on purchasing a MP Dragon, please check out my Monster Point Dragon Purchasing Check-list Guide.
Keep in mind all of the following monsters qualify for Skill Inheritance so do not be too hasty in selling dupes.
The Odin are some of the oldest monsters in Puzzle and Dragons that have been receiving numerous small buffs to try and regain their viability. On the other hand, Ilm and Zuoh are two newer Godfest Exclusives who are powerful options for their respective teams due to their full board changers.
Odins, Ilm, & Zuoh
God / Attacker
50x Dark damage to all enemies. 10x ATK poison
15 turn CD
|Red Odin (Rodin) is considered by many to be a staple sub on push button teams. However, with the introduction of skill inheritance, his dependency is slightly lowered if you are willing to invest in a high skill boost base monster. However, Red Odin performs the job so well and can make farming a breeze. Unfortunately, his uses beyond a farming sub are slim as his active will only be situationally useful to bypass high defence monsters via poison. You can also inherit his skill which does make him one of the few poison cards that can be used as an assistant.
In an effort to increase his viability, Red Odin has received various buffs to his leader skill and now provides 2x HP and 3.75x ATK. This is reasonable and can make as a pseudo tank team lead. Unfortunately, his active is relatively weak and would require an inheritance to have more viability.
Overall, Red Odin is a luxury card who will not see much use for the average player. Just remember, being able to farm an easy dungeon fast does not increase the drop rates, only the speed in which you can clear (and burn stones).
God / Physical
50x ATK damage & 15% heal. Enhance water & dark orbs
6 turn CD
|Blue Odin (Blodin) has outrageously sculpted thighs that are threatening to burst through his skin-tight pants. Looks aside, the magical spear Odin posses an outstanding 894 weighed stats along with a wonderful mix of offensive awakenings to satisfy any mono water team. Granted you rarely wish to mix rows with TPA awakenings and thus he only has six valid awakenings. Unfortunately, he lacks any form of utility and skill bind resistance which could place constraints on team building to help achieve 100% immunity.
Blue Odin’s active has undergone numerous micro-buffs with a reduction to 6 turns with latest patch. Unfortunately, the dual enhancement for water and dark goes mostly to waste and only adds additional turns to the cooldown. However, at only 6 turns, you can use Odin as a base for skill inheritance as his awakenings and base stats are quite strong. Furthermore, you should not discredit the healing component tied to his active. At max level and +297, he will restore 13,395 health and has functioned as an emergency heal on my Blue Sonia team.
Blue Odin can have an appearance on any mono water team due to his God and Physical typing which includes, but not limited to Blue Sonia, Neptune Dragon , I&I / Ryune , Lakshmi , and Rukia . As stated above, you can use Blue Odin as your base for skill inheritance as he has a low base cooldown along with high stats and 3 skill boost awakenings.
Overall, Blue Odin is regaining favour as a 6-star GFE due to numerous active buffs and skill inheritance.
| Green Odin
God / Balance
50x ATK damage & 15% heal. 5 turns bind clear
9 turn CD
|Like Blue Odin , Green Odin (Grodin) has been receiving numerous micro-buffs to his active and is finally blessed with a truly powerful bind clear. If full leveled and +297, he will restore just under 14k health along with removing 5 turns of binds. This is quite potent and although you will rarely need to remove 5 turns, it is a helpful option to have available for skill inheritance. The main reason Odin is not selected as a sub on most teams is his lack of offensive awakenings and no SBR or recover bind utility. Thus, his only purpose would be bind clearing which is becoming less important due to unbindable leads.
In addition to his active skill receiving improvements, Grodin’s leader skill has also been upgraded to grant up to 3.5x ATK when clearing 4-8 connected wood orbs and an 80% damage reduction shield on the first attack when HP is full. This is not game-breaking, but at least allows for modestly faster clears if tackling a descend with no multi-hit components. His favourite pairing would be Awoken Ama who also has an ATK multiplier in addition to large autohealing component to her leader skill.
Overall, Green Odin is still a lacklustre 5-star GFE as the dependency on bind clearing is at an all time low and will most likely be regulated to being an assistant through skill inheritance.
Devil / Attacker
12 turn CD
|Ilm is essentially a Light/Fire Sonia without an ultimate evolution. This automatically diminishes their value as they only have 6 awakenings (which is low for a 6-star GFE) and I was somewhat surprised to see them in the PCGF. However, it just shows how popular Saria / Thor and Machine Zeus teams are as Ilm can almost always produce 2+ rows through their active. You are of course running the risk of a horrible orb-trolled board which cannot correct via orb changers due to only light and fire orbs being generated. I would prefer to run a tri-colour board changer as you can combo with another sub to pretty much guarantee a burst heavy board. Regardless, you can still effectively utilise Ilm on your mono light row teams and the promise of a future ultimate evolution should address their lack of awakenings.
Ilm’s leadership potential is for the most part impractical as a 36x lead is not game breaking considering you have to match two different colours and have no HP or RCV multiplier. However, you can use Ilm as a fantastic Tsubaki sub (if you can find friends who use them) as you generate their two needed colours and can achieve a higher multiplier.
Overall, Ilm is a potent mono light sub and their active can be transferred to both fire and light teams.
Devil / Physical
8 turn CD
|Zuoh has fantastic artwork that truly captures the demonic beast within. He has a relatively new ultimate evolution that gave him a significant boost to his damage output through an additional row and Dragon Killer awakening. The Dragon Killer is exceptionally valuable in Ultimate Arena when facing the Dark Kali as it helps you push her out of the >65% danger zone. In addition to his offensive capabilities, he has a healthy mix of defensive utility and is a boon to all dark row-based/devil teams. You can find Zuoh making an appearance on Lucifer , Pandora , and Dark Metatron as they all focus on dark rows and Zuoh can be beautifully combo-ed with Akechi , Hanzo , and Pandora to form a 2/3 dark board for explosive damage.
The main drawback of using Zuoh as a sub is his 0 base RCV that can place constraints on recovering when stalling. Awoken Pandora teams already have naturally low RCV due to their two leaders and Zuoh can further complicate the problem unless you have heavy plus egg investment.
Zuoh can also be used as a leader and form a “Meimei System” by using multiple Awoken Meimeis to continuously chain his leader skill activation. However, the team is fragile as there is no HP or RCV multiplier and you have no defensive utility.
Overall, Zuoh is a powerful dark row team sub and his offensive capabilities and his active allows for incredible burst damage when combo-ed with another orb changer.
6 thoughts on “Odins, Ilm, & Zuoh Monster Analysis”
I’m hoping to use Grodin’s new LS in some interesting way to either farm or take down descends. I kinda miss the good old days of PAD where you would do things like Grodin/Amaterasu combo to take down Hera
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It may just be a slow process, you may get impatient =P
I don’t like Ilm in Thoria, ( still at level 30 in my box) but I want another board changer.
I got Saria in pcgf and have no interest on her, since I already have a penta Thor…
So, in your opinion, what can be more valuable? Transfer Saria skill to my penta A.Venus, use Saria itself or give a chance to Ilm?
The answer depends on what the rest of your team looks like.
You may want to include that Ilm can be used to make the Leilan system, although chances are if you have four Leilans, you prob have enough for a Liu bei which is a far better push button.
That is pretty niche tbh and not practical for 99% of people XD