Godfest basics
When making the decision to roll or save your magic stones, you need to determine if the featured pantheons can benefit or complement your teams. Chasing for one specific monster is unwise as you will most likely be disappointed and should ideally have Godfests that overlap with many target cards. Remember all monsters that come out of the REM will qualify for Skill Inheritance so do not be too hasty when selling dupes. For a more detailed team building help, please refer to my Popular Leader’s and their Full Sub List Post which is in the process of being updated. Lastly, to find more information about a specific pantheon or monster, refer to my Master List to better refine your search. If you are considering to purchase any of the Monster Point cards, please refer to my updated Tier List for help and advice.
I also encourage you to visit my Discord server as it is full of knowledgeable and friendly people.
Introduction
The Candy Cornucopia Godfest occurs on Halloween along with the debut of 2 new Godfest Exclusives. However, the scariest thing will not be wildly dressed Trick-or-Treaters knocking at your door but 5x roll rates for GFE and no featured Pantheons.
Having no featured Pantheons tends to result in poorer overall rolling rates as it is my understanding that every card has a base rolling value which is then multiplied during Godfests. Thus, having fewer cards featured means silvers and less than desirable cards take up a larger portion of the rolls.
On the brightish side, all GFE will come out at level 50 along with occurring alongside the Wisedragons & Heroic Warriors carnival. Sadly, this carnival is lackluster with 2x rates and there are no plus eggs as collateral benefit when rolling. Thankfully, two select 6* GFE will feature 10x rates.
This article will include the usual tier list as well as a brief review of Kamimusubi and Takamimusubi
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Video commentary
–video coming soon and when I resinstall OBS–
Rolls at a glance
Candy Cornucopia Godfest |
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Day 1 |
No Pantheons |
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No Pantheons |
Ranking the cards – Pantheons & GFE
These rankings I assign cards are my own and take into consideration the card’s value as a leader, sub, inherit, and possibly any niche role they fulfill. In order to rank in the highest tier, the card has to excel in their respective role and cannot feasibly be replaced by anyone else. This can also be thought of as a Best in Slot card and tends to have applications on the top tier teams.
Despite my best to remain neutral, there is always the potential for bias and you need to be able to examine a card and determine if it can benefit your unique Monster Box and situation.
Legend guide
Symbols condense the time spent processing information and here is a brief explanation for each one I will use:
S
The best of the best. These cards compromise a best in slot role on top tier teams. They are largely irreplaceable and tend to offer something unique that cannot be easily replicated. This mostly exists to showcase the jump in power between the rest of the cards available.
A
All of the cards in this tier bring tremendous value to a variety of teams as either leaders, subs, or inherits that are challenging to mimic elsewhere. For example, Green Odin remains one of the strongest bind clears and only card that can remove 5 turns of awoken skill binds (outside of Odin Dragon
). It may not be paramount to your success, but is well worth owning overall.
B
This category indicates cards that have value, but are not as widely used/irreplaceable as the above tier(s). While they may make your life easier and still bring an additional layer of power to your team, they are far from necessary. With that being said, some of these cards could hold the key to your own teams as everyone has different tools to work with.
C
Cards in the question mark category tend to be those that are a luxury and are often not widely used for the average player. With that being said, they may bring niche value to your monster box or provide an additional option to use. A great example of this is Red Odin who is a premiere button farming option, but with the addition of Red Tamazo
, players at least have a “farmable” poison inherit along with the future implementation of Descend inherits.
D
This category indicates the bottom of the Puzzle and Dragons barrel. These cards tend to have almost minimal value as they simply do not fit in the current meta and are badly in need of a buff or new evolution to give them viability. With that being said, you should still keep them as they technically have the most potential for improvement.
This arrow indicates if a card has moved up since the last posting/tier list. The category/bracket they are placed in will be their new home and each arrow will show how many brackets they moved up (eg. 2 will indicate they climbed up two rankings).
This takes into consideration the the + and – within tiers.
This arrow indicates if a card has moved down since the last posting/tier list. The category they are placed in will be their new home and each arrow will show how many brackets they moved down (eg. 2 will indicate they were demoted down by two rankings).
This takes into consideration the the + and – within tiers.
+
A + indicates that these cards are relatively stronger than the other cards in that respective tier bracket and are trying to move up and may do so if a minor buff or new card/evo is released that can full capitalize on their strengths.
No plus/minus
No plus/minus indicates that the card is in the middle of their respective tier bracket.
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A – indicates that this card is relatively weaker than the others in their respective tier bracket and are on the cusp of being demoted.
New Godfest Exclusives overview
Ney is a newish 6-star GFE who features the first ever 5-evolution path that results in a uniquely powerful card who can be utilized by every single player. I go into more detail about Ney in my full review HERE. However. this is somewhat old news and the main focus will be on Kamimusubi
and Takamimusubi
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Kamimusubi – S (6*)
Kamimusubi is challenging to type and is often referred to as Kami. Regardless, if we were to compare her to an existing card, the closest would be Yog due to the similar style of leader skill.
Kami requires you to be above 80% to deal maximum damage when matching both wood and dark combos. However, her damage sharply declines when below 80% and her base active skill is significantly weaker.
Yog is somewhat revered for his incredible active skill as it accomplishes several key factors at once. Unfortunately, Kami’s ability is rather lackluster as the 50% chance for enhance orb skyfall is strange at best. Granted she can heal for 30% of your maximum HP to help push you back into your zone, it is still flat by comparison. Thankfully, she boasts a short 5-turn cooldown that can be inherited over which is amazing if using her as a sub.
Now, I do not want to make Kami look weak as a leader because she is still amazingly powerful as she has natural access to Follow Up Attack (FUA) and a blisteringly high multiplier. Like any health sensitive leader, Kami will tend to excel in shorter dungeons where you can plan/budget active skills accordingly. She can obliterate challenging content with minimal comboing and will add a nice layer of diversity to your leadership roster.
However, one major appeal for Kami is that she is the only dark card (at this point in time, will change in the future) with a FUA awakening. FUA has become vital in high level content where bosses have variuos shields, absorbs, voids, combo shields, Resolves, terrifying mechanics and the ability to bake a cake. Thus, being able to trivialize one dangerous mechanic is invaluable as it improves consistency and saves an active skill. Furthermore, being the only dark card to boast this amazing awakening adds to her overall appeal.
If you wish to read more about Kami from a different (and food-oriented) perspective, feel free to check out The Puzzled Chef HERE.
Takamimusubi – B (5*)
Takamimusubi is the only card in the game that can provide 3 turns of haste. Unfortunately, this comes at the cost of a lengthy 20 turn cooldown while offering 300% orb movement time as a collateral benefit. Thus, it would be hard to justify this as an inherit for active skill cycling as it takes far too long and does not provide a board changer or meaningful secondary benefit. Options like Mori or Mitsunari
boast a much shorter base cooldown, 2 turns of haste, and a powerful board changer.
As a result, we need to look at Takamimusubi as a leader. Thankfully, they have an interesting mechanic as they provide no skyfalls and a combination of rainbow and board matching for their multiplier.
One part of Takamimusubi requires you to match any 4/5 colours while the other wants you to leave 5 or less orbs after matching. Thus, you can have up to 400x ATK when fulfilling both these requirements. While this may seem daunting, it is reasonably consistent as you can in theory connect orbs into more than sets of 3 to ensure only 5 or less remain. In addition, having the flexibility of matching 4/5 colours helps further improve activation consistency. Furthermore, there is no combo threshold required so you can match blobs provided you fulfill the two clauses.
Sadly, this relegates him into a glass cannon leader due to no defensive multiplier or shielding component. We already have plenty of hard hitting leaders who can achieve similar levels of damage for far less effort, are more consistent, or have defensive capabilities.
Pantheon tier list
Due to the way that Powercreep works and how GungHo does not actually nerf cards, I may have to do a soft reset in a few months where I demote everything but the very top down 1 ranking and then readjust if things have become stronger. Presently, I only demote cards if I have overvalued them or they have completely fallen out of the meta. However, this is not the case for this list’s ranking but may be something I do in the future.
As with any tier list, you should take these rankings with a grain of salt as individual cards may have more or less value for your particular monster box.
Ordering within each bracket is random.
Pantheon Tier List – October 4, 2017 |
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Notable changes
Orochi along with the entire delay active category is now on the decline. This is because of Follow Up Attack
trivializing resolve spawns along with most challenging encounters possessing status void shields. However, Orochi is still the strongest delay option along with being a potent sub and beefy HP-inherit. I may continue to drop Orochi as time goes on.
Sima Yi , Pandora
, and Isis
are all dropped down out of S due to the fact that they are no longer as meta as they were several months ago. This is because either newer options have come out to replace them or their respective leaders have all fallen down due to Powercreep.
Vritra jumps up an entire letter grade (something I wish my report cards could do) as his active skill can have merits on farming/button teams when inherited onto something like Jize
.
On a side note, I will concede that trying to manage a full tier list is challenging especially when dealing with cards below S. It is easier to lump cards into the full letter category but becomes challenging when trying to distinguish when dealing with + and -. Finally, I personally find it simpler to manage the very top as it is more clear who is the best of the best.
GFE tier list
I feel that having a tier list that visually ranks the various GFE against each other when looking at their viability as a leader, sub, assist, or niche role is beneficial. Being able to cover numerous aspects will result in a higher placing along with their value in rolling dupes. This will attempt to rate these cards from a general box point of view and your individual situation will dictate just how important each card is.
Generally speaking, if a this is your first time acquiring a GFE, it will have at least some value and you should never sell a non-duplicate card.
This is an updated list compared to last time to reflect the new evolutions that have been announced/released in JP. Within each tier, the cards are in no particular order and is simply how they appear in my icons master list or after reshuffling.
GFE Tier List – October 30, 2017 |
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Notable changes
B -> A
Sylvie, Fenrir Viz, and Paimon all have received new and exciting evolutions that grant them new awakenings that help solidify their usage in the current meta.
Sylvie gains the wonderful 7 Combo and FUA
while Fenrir Viz acquires a second God Killer
. Finally, Paimon solidifies his place on Yog
teams with his incredible base HP and FUA.
B -> A
Aten and Baldin are both on the rise due to the power of multiple Killer awakenings. Stacking Killer awakenings can enable them to deal 9x or even 27x to various spawns which is often complete overkill. Furthermore, with the introduction of FUA and variuos Fujin -style actives, the need for damage control is on the decline. If they were to somehow magically gain a Box
awakening, it would make the game too easy.
S -> A
Dark Metatron is one of my favourite leaders but I have to admit that she is on the decline. This is not because she has lost power, but falls victim to the natural flow of Powercreep in that she is being overshadowed by stronger options. This includes the sexier 2 combo leaders and now Raphael for Liu Bei pairing
for no Skyfall farming.
I still love you.
A -> B
Raijin and Gremory are just not competitive options in this day and age. Neither is a powerful leader when compared to the top tier options and their sub usage is scattered at best. However, they are still nice to have but no longer fit in the A-tier.
Sherias D -> C
Sherias’s new evolution will grant them more usage as they can now utilize their poor base active skill to trigger their Guard Break along with boasting both Devil
and Healer
Killer awakenings.
Kanna B -> C
Kanna was once an S-tier card and highly desirable to own. Sadly, she has been pushed into partial obscurity with the introduction of 7 Combo awakenings and the decline of Ra Dragon
. Kanna is no longer able to keep abreast with other options for burst damage potential along with having one of the worst base active skills in the game. It is problematic for both the lackluster effect and long cooldown that makes it challenging to efficiently inherit over.
Featured Pantheon Ratings
Redundantly leaving this here to highlight no Pantheons (and so I have an easier time with formatting for future Godfests).
Candy Cornucopia Pantheons – October 30, 2017 |
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Day 2 |
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D |
Spooky
Lackluster Carnival
The Wisedragons & Heroic Warriors Carnival features a scary 2x rates for those 10 respective cards. While the Wisedragons are amazing burst inherits, the abysmally low rolling rates are hard to notice.
Putting it all together
5x rates apply with the exception of two 6* GFE at 10x on each day:
Cards are in no particular order
Candy Cornucopia – October 30, 2017 |
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Day 2 |
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Overall, I feel that Day 1 is the stronger one to roll in assuming you have no cards at all. Naturally, your own Monster Box will dictate what is best for you. However, having Kanna featured at 10x rates is horrible if I were to put it nicely.
Conclusion
The Candy Cornucopia Godfest is one of the spookiest ones to date due to 5x rates on GFE with no featured Pantheon cards. Furthermore, Day 2 has Kanna at 10x rates which would have been nice in 2016 but she is sadly irrelevant for the most part.
While the allure of Kami may tempt you, I encourage you to exercise judgement as to whether or not this Godfest is truly worth it for you.
Let me know what you think about the this Godfest and whether or not you are planning on rolling.
Happy Halloween Puzzling!
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Thank you for the list! On an unimportant side note, however, there is a small spelling error just above the pantheon tier list (Within spelled as Withing). That is all and once again thanks!
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Thank you for the keen eye and it has been changed =)
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I generally decide to YOLO each godfest once. However, my first pull on this one was a Wisedragon, which was enough of an uncommon occurrence to make me YOLO again. Which landed me the Kami.
A great way to start the day!
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Fantastic!
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Gronia, Ronove and the green Wisedragon. Think I’m going to avoid crossing any boulevards for a bit.
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Pretty nice rolls!
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Worst GFE. Possibly ever. So many silvers and fake gold.
guan yu, unicorn rider. sleeping beauty, alfecca, shining dragon swordsman, Folen Lazule, Phoenix Rider…
and whoever decided that it would be a good idea to put fully evoed cards like Zhuge Liang into the REM should be fired. So very disappointing to actually pull a diamond and get that.
The only thing stopping me from doing some rage selling is that some might end up becoming good assist evolutions.
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Red or Green Yu?
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Green. And I don’t use the one I already have.
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I believe that they were demoted to a carnival exclusive a while ago
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i did 6 pulls. norn urd, krishna, norn skuld, caladbolg, 2 silvers. the non-silvers are all new cards on this account. i have 6 pulls on other account. i will post when i do them at home.
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Rolled other account: blue wise dragon, purple wise dragon, sheat, 2 baldins and a silver egg.
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2 balboas…not baldins
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That’s the difference between a boxer and hair loss, man.
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Yeah I feel that this GF is lackluster overall. 5x rates would have been good last year but now with no Pantheons it is sad.
Also, it is always a good idea to keep at least 1 of every card in case something magical happens to them
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I got Henry Boram with my yolo. Yeah, who???
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That series was designed by one of the Final Fantasy artists, IIRC. Terrible, but interesting backstory I guess. Mostly just terrible.
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I guess the lack of rolling Sherias Roots made you forget him?
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Roots is still there! Just sitting happily in A
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Hes not on the Oct. 30 GFE Tier List. He’s there on the Godfest Tier List though.
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Oh thanks =) fixed!
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2x Australis, 2x verdandi, green dragon swordsman,…. I thought it was a wise dragon carnival not a wood carnival!!!!
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Both stat with W!
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I rolled Eschamali. What is she good for?
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Also, do you need 2 Sima Yis?
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The more the merrier! He, too, is great to have. Though he gets outclassed by a few cards.
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Sima Yi is still useful for both water and dark teams plus the unlock can make or break certain dungeons
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Eschamali, afaik, is a extremely useful dark monster that’s buffs the power of dark teams with her orb enhances.
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Rolled Fujin. What do i use her for? Viable Leader or only to be used against things like sophdet.
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Fantastic inherit for content involving absorbs and a nice midgame lead. If you find you need more damage, pair with a summer fujin.
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Damage absorbs to be specific.
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Fujin counters Damage absorbers like Sopdet, Hera Dragon, and Vishnu. Also is invaluable for farming Machine Hera
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Just curious since I pulled Blonia, why is her new ult rated a tier higher than red/green?
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Her colours are stronger and she can be used as a sub on water teams
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Dupe Sitri, do I really need it badly for double inherit or can I sell?
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Keep her as she has no ult evo yet
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Sorry if this is wildly against the rules, but anyone able to help out w/2 player challenge 9/10 to wrap up October? I don’t seem to have the knack for it.
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Your best bet in the future is try the various discord servers =)
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Nice analysis as usual 😉
i did 3 pulls in this GF, got ney, Oichi and finally my first Sylvie.
The only thing that was broken in my box was a row lead team and Sylvie came just in time to fill that role in the current meta.
No idea how people are building her team but, I’m using Sylvie(Verdandi)/Perseus(Verdandi)/Grodin(A.Oichi)/Osiris/Tengu(Orochi)/ Sylvie (Oichi)
i’m using A.Oichi in Grodin for clears, and Oichi in my alt account Sylvie for combo shields.
Osiris is a must because give orbs every 4 turns (essential for Sylvie shield).
Using Tengu to host orochi but can be anything, since the team already have 10+ rows.
Now I have a boost… That green thing that give 5x for wood for one turn.
Should I inherit this in Perseus instead of verdandi?
thanks.
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Well the thing with full board changers is that they rely on some RNG as well as several members having it. Do you have any board changer combos to make 2/3 boards?
My main problem with Sylvie overall is the lower dmg and active skill clause. Active skill clauses can be overcome via gunma but you are quite orb hungry overall
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I have some heart breakers that I can use to fix the Sylvie board, or I can use 2 colors board like Avalon or gronia as assist, but not sure if is a good idea.
btw, I’m using Sylvie 3771, so there’s no active clause in the LS. Basically it’s a Myr with better attack but without the heart cross thing. I mean, With myr we had to make rows anyway.
The shield is 50%, but hey… the crazy rcv compensates that “issue”.
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right, I’m not actually comparing Sylvie with myr, cuz myr is unbindable and cross lead, just saying the “goal” is the same, rising shield and firing rows.
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