With another round of 10x descends coming up, it is worth planning ahead on which dungeons to repeatedly farm. You should have 100% success rate in clearing the descend as any failed run will set you back and make even the most efficient dungeon unideal. Everyone has different goals in terms of number of plus eggs they wish to farm along with the number of stones used to refill stamina and the chart prepared below should help you plan out your next event. Please read my Plus Egg Fusing Guide for more information on how to quickly form +297s with minimal gold usage and thinking.
The chart assumes the highest level of difficulty and on regular 1x drop rates. Number of pluses increase with enhanced drop rates. This also applies to coin dungeons and these become the best to play with 1.5x or 2x drop rate as you are more likely to hit the higher number of pluses per run.
**Do note that the 30 stamina of Tengu from coin dungeons on 1.5x drop rates is amazingly efficient and has a follow up post HERE to better discuss it.**
With the anticipated release of the revamped Star Vault, Star Treasure Thieves’ Den (Star Den), we now have another means to acquire the coveted plus eggs. For 50 stamina, you are able to acquire a a guaranteed 10 plus eggs with minimal difficulty. This makes Star Den the most efficient place to farm plus eggs from both a time and stamina efficacy point of view.
Video Clear
Such buttons, much skill, very Plus Eggs
Damage Hurdles
The first four floors can have a maximum of 117,133 HP and is able to be swept with minimal combos or even a push button team. Do note that Goemon’s active cannot one shot a blue ogre so avoid using his active on those floors or bring a back up damage dealer such as Bone Fish, Fire/Wood, or Water/Wood Ogres. Furthermore, Red Odin requires 2343 ATK to safely nuke the Green Ogres down. This requires either:
+40 ATK pluses
5 ATK & 19 ATK pluses
The final boss floor has up to 1.9 million HP. The main benefit of running Star Den over Goemon, Zeus, or Valkyrie descended is receiving 1 extra plus per run and has the potential to be push-button farmed. Even if you do not have a team that can button farm Star Den, you can easily sweep the floors with a Two-Prong match and remaining actives for the final boss.
Plus Egg Comparison
Do note that all these values are for single player mode. Simply, double the rates for Stamina/+ and Exp/Stamina.
Star Den
5
10
5
172
Descend
Floors
Average +’s
Stamina/+
Exp/Stamina
Kanetsugu
7
6 (5-7)
8.33
571
Hera-Sowilo
10
5.5 (4-9)
9.09
591
Deus Ex
7
5 (4-7)
10
753
Aamir
8
5 (5-8)
10
313
Tengu
5
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
193
GYP
6
4.5 (4-6)
11.11
332
Zhang Fei
6
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
414
Hel
6
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
480
Grimoire
7
4 (4-5)
12.5
378
Zhao Yun
6
4
12.5
266
Zeus Mercury
10
4 (4-7)
12.5
685
PAD Z
6
4 (3-6)
12.5
413
Goemon*
5
4
12.5
193
Zeus*
5
4
12.5
202
Valkyrie*
5
4
12.5
125
Full post on my 10x chart can be found HERE. As you can see, Star Den is the most lucrative place to farm plus eggs and mainly lags behind in rank exp per stamina spent.
Conclusion
Even though some players may quickly mow through the dungeon, they still receive the same pluses per completion. They simply wish to acquire as many possible within their hourly limit and will repeatedly stone to do so. With the advent of stamina overflow, refilling stamina is a viable method and you can calculate your plus eggs per magic stone used. For example, if you have 150 stamina, you can expect 60 pluses per stone (in coop). This translates into 300 (60*5) pluses per REM roll. Just keep this in mind when deciding if it is worthwhile to stone for stamina.
10x descends is quite hectic and I may be going a little overboard at the moment. I am actually closing my eyes and seeing the plus egg drop and that wonderful *ding* noise along with using different fingers to prevent fatigue. Perhaps it is the sign of madness, but I have also farmed ~1,000 plus eggs across both accounts over the course of these 2 days. After the weekend, things will begin to slow down again as my 2 favourite dungeons, Kanetsugu and Hera-Sowilo, end their rotation (however, does return next Sunday).
Teams used for all attribute
I chose to play and because they offer a wonderful amount of rank exp along with 5-6 plus eggs on average per run. I prefer this over Zeus or the other push button farm dungeons because I lack a push button team and it feels more wasteful due to less plus eggs and no collateral benefits. For more information, feel free to check out my chart detailing plus egg rates and exp/stamina in the more popular descends HERE.
Hopefully everyone still has their sanity and is reaching their plus egg goals/target.
After the frenzy that we had with 10x descends, farming plus eggs during 5x feels a bit sad. Don’t get me wrong, this is still a viable way to farm plus eggs, it mostly feels underwhelming due to the expectations that every drop will be a plus. Furthermore, we only have Zeus Mercury and Guan Yinping as viable descends to run this event as I would estimate the plus egg rate hovers at just under 50% based on the runs I have done in coin Hera-Sowilo.
With 10x Descends drawing to a close, players are still combing through their box to sort out whether they got their last few RCV pluses and admiring all the shiny new +297s, I want to take this opportunity to reflect on what this means for the state of PAD.
First off, the end result is amazing. 7 plus eggs from 50 stamina on an easy to clear dungeon? How would you resist? I farmed so many plus eggs with minimal refilling and am now the proud owner of 15 +297s. Continue reading 10x Plus Egg Descends Afterthoughts→
Now that 10x descends has been live for over a day, the question of what is best to play is on the forefront of everyone’s mind. Before I elaborate on what I recommend and do, I want to emphasize that everyone has different goals in PAD and varying levels of commitment, orb matching skills, current teams, and frequency of refilling stamina. My way may not be the best way for you and I want you to take my playstyle with a grain of salt.
I currently play on my Mantastic and Fantastic account and I commit differently to each one. Mantastic is my main and original account and it is the one that I put the most effort and investment into. On the other hand, Fantastic is an account Continue reading What am I doing for 10x Descends and Why→
North America is finally getting 10x plus egg drop rate in descend dungeons, but why is this such a big deal and why are people so Gung-Ho about it? Before I go into more detail, I should explain what plus eggs are and why they have become so valuable. Plus Eggs contribute bonus stats to your monster’s health, attack, and recovery values and is a way to further augment the strength of your cards beyond level 99. Every non-evolution and enhance material drop has a small chance of dropping with a +1 and you need a total of 297 to max out a monster. This is a lot of plus eggs and is part of the reason why PAD is such a grindy game.