Challenge Dungeons 23 features 7×6 boards and was one of the easier challenges to date. We now have access to amazingly powerful monsters, an unlimited stalling potential second floor (through Parvati), and a delay-able final boss for Challenge 10.
I cleared Ch10 with both my accounts and was able to record a Fantastic clear with truly exciting gameplay….because I omitted the 99 turns I waited out on the second floor. Both accounts used all their actives to burst the first floor as you can endlessly stall on the second floor.
With the anticipated release of the revamped Star Vault, Star Treasure Thieves’ Den (Star Den), we now have another means to acquire the coveted plus eggs. For 50 stamina, you are able to acquire a a guaranteed 10 plus eggs with minimal difficulty. This makes Star Den the most efficient place to farm plus eggs from both a time and stamina efficacy point of view.
Video Clear
Such buttons, much skill, very Plus Eggs
Damage Hurdles
The first four floors can have a maximum of 117,133 HP and is able to be swept with minimal combos or even a push button team. Do note that Goemon’s active cannot one shot a blue ogre so avoid using his active on those floors or bring a back up damage dealer such as Bone Fish, Fire/Wood, or Water/Wood Ogres. Furthermore, Red Odin requires 2343 ATK to safely nuke the Green Ogres down. This requires either:
+40 ATK pluses
5 ATK & 19 ATK pluses
The final boss floor has up to 1.9 million HP. The main benefit of running Star Den over Goemon, Zeus, or Valkyrie descended is receiving 1 extra plus per run and has the potential to be push-button farmed. Even if you do not have a team that can button farm Star Den, you can easily sweep the floors with a Two-Prong match and remaining actives for the final boss.
Plus Egg Comparison
Do note that all these values are for single player mode. Simply, double the rates for Stamina/+ and Exp/Stamina.
Star Den
5
10
5
172
Descend
Floors
Average +’s
Stamina/+
Exp/Stamina
Kanetsugu
7
6 (5-7)
8.33
571
Hera-Sowilo
10
5.5 (4-9)
9.09
591
Deus Ex
7
5 (4-7)
10
753
Aamir
8
5 (5-8)
10
313
Tengu
5
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
193
GYP
6
4.5 (4-6)
11.11
332
Zhang Fei
6
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
414
Hel
6
4.5 (4-5)
11.11
480
Grimoire
7
4 (4-5)
12.5
378
Zhao Yun
6
4
12.5
266
Zeus Mercury
10
4 (4-7)
12.5
685
PAD Z
6
4 (3-6)
12.5
413
Goemon*
5
4
12.5
193
Zeus*
5
4
12.5
202
Valkyrie*
5
4
12.5
125
Full post on my 10x chart can be found HERE. As you can see, Star Den is the most lucrative place to farm plus eggs and mainly lags behind in rank exp per stamina spent.
Conclusion
Even though some players may quickly mow through the dungeon, they still receive the same pluses per completion. They simply wish to acquire as many possible within their hourly limit and will repeatedly stone to do so. With the advent of stamina overflow, refilling stamina is a viable method and you can calculate your plus eggs per magic stone used. For example, if you have 150 stamina, you can expect 60 pluses per stone (in coop). This translates into 300 (60*5) pluses per REM roll. Just keep this in mind when deciding if it is worthwhile to stone for stamina.
No one likes low cost restricted dungeons and this round of Challenge Descends features Tengu. Low cost mostly gate keeps newer players as they have not had to grind through dungeons with farmable monsters as everything is sped up. As such, most people may lack a feasible team to tackle a 12 cost dungeon. Hopefully my first video attempt with Mantastic does not have horrible audio and my (muffled) walk through commentary aids players in their quest for a Water Snowglobe. Maybe watching it in mute may be less unpleasant…
I am still quite proud of my max skilled King Bubblie from my Physical Sakuya days and not having to wait for his active is a significant boost in power.
Let me know what you used to tackle this annoying dungeon in the comments below.
After the frenzy that we had with 10x descends, farming plus eggs during 5x feels a bit sad. Don’t get me wrong, this is still a viable way to farm plus eggs, it mostly feels underwhelming due to the expectations that every drop will be a plus. Furthermore, we only have Zeus Mercury and Guan Yinping as viable descends to run this event as I would estimate the plus egg rate hovers at just under 50% based on the runs I have done in coin Hera-Sowilo.
I tried to put the Rush in Ultimate Dragon Rush by using my Wonder Boys of Umisachi & Yamasachi team. This was one of the first times I took my newly hypermaxed Famiel who has an impressive 3 two prong attack awakenings. I will just say the damage she was able to hit was mind blowing. My other subs were Oku , Sun Quan , and Awoken Isis .
Nearly hypermaxed!
P.S. I almost got recording for Mantastic to work so it may not be long until I can make videos of different clears =)
The inner child in me stayed up until past midnight on Christmas Eve and was slightly disappointed that Santa Claus did not visit me right away in PAD =( Also, what did Santa say to Christmas Hera? Ho Ho Ho!
I managed to wake up early and play some PAD while most of my family was still asleep. I was also able to record my mythical / aka SuperBlessed clear in the new Santa Claus Descended, so you can watch me waste stamina instead of you! Only some minor hiccups and I promise I haven’t started drinking nor hungover from last night! Continue reading Santa Claus Descended Video and Merry Christmas!!→