I am in the process of updating this list over the next week or two and work from the top down so somethings will still be outdated/missing in the meantime.
Introduction
Due to the ever changing dynamic of team building through Skill Inheritance, team building has either become more flexible or more rigid. It becomes more flexible due to the fact that you can use almost any card as a sub and fill in the blanks via inheritance. However, this does eventually lead to a more rigid team building experience as you will end up using similar powerful bases and supplementing with appropriate assists.
As such, I have been trying to determine how I can have this list reflect both aspects of team building. Listing subs that fulfill specific roles is helpful, but may become misleading once you begin to acquire more cards to play around with. Thus, I will try my best to list higher tier subs along with other options and include a massive inheritance chart at the beginning you can use to fill in the gaps.
When deciding which leader and team you want to invest in, you ideally want to find a balance between a deep and diverse sub pool combined with a love for their playstyle that suits your personality and matching skills. Even leaders who are not popular in the meta are capable of clearing high end content provided you have a synergetic team and passion for their gameplay.
Furthermore, you should try to balance the subs/actives you bring to ensure a healthy mixture of quick orb changers, damage enhancing, and defensive utility. When trying to determine if you require a bind clearing sub, you must take into account how dangerous the bind is and whether you can stall through it or avoid it. If you are able to avoid the bind by bursting through the boss before they are able to attack, it may be best to do so as bind clearing subs tend to bring little to the party aside from their active. Lastly, leaders with higher multipliers are more reliant on consistency and survivability over offensive actives as the sheer strength of their leader skill can sweep most floors.
If you wish to read about how I approach tackling a dungeon and subsequently how I build my team, please read my previous article HERE.
Video commentary
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Popular leaders sorted by category
When trying to find a particular leader in this post, it is best to use the ctrl + F (search) feature. Otherwise, the leaders are colour sorted in no particular order. Due to the sheer size of this ever growing list, I may have trimmed out lesser leaders and simply put their names alongside other cards that are similar to them (eg. placing other rainbow leaders alongside Ra if similar).
I am not including the button farming coop teams.
| Style | Leader |
| Rainbow: |         |
| Combo Based: |
     |
| 5 orbs, 1 enhanced: (5o,1e) |
    |
| Tank teams: |         +   +   +  +  |
| Heart orbs required: |
     |
| Multiple combos of specific colour: |
   |
| Row Based: |        |
| Speed farming: |   |
| Colour Cross |     |
| Heart Cross: |       |
If you feel I left out your favourite team, leave a reply in the comments below and I shall add in accordingly. For a list of 5×4 leads, feel free to check out my other guide HERE.
If you wish to read a more detailed analysis of all the REM pantheon monsters, please refer to my Master List Breakdown. If you are considering to purchase a Monster Point card, please read my Tier List HERE.
Skill Inheritance
Skill Inheritance has become a vital part of the Puzzle and Dragons meta as it allows you to utilize desirable active skills from cards that would not be ideal to run as subs. This also enables you to better customize your team to your liking and address any dangerous mechanic the dungeon can throw at you. I encourage you to read my revamped Skill Inheritance Guide to better understand all the changes that have been made and how to better utilize this mechanic.
Below is for the most part, a full overview of the various inheritance options you can use sorted by categories. For full board changers, you can utilize off-colour inherits provided they generate your desired element. However, if possible, you should try to use same attribute inherit and base to take advantage of the stat transfer feature.
| ACTIVE | MONSTER |
|---|---|
| Gravity |    |
| Damage reduction |
             |
| Full board changers |
Rainbow:       jjj Bi-colour:        — Tri-element with hearts:        — Tri-element with no hearts:       — Other:   |
| True damage / poison |
     |
| Damage enhance |
     —               |
| Delay |            |
| Bind clearing |                 |
Popular leaders and the sub list:
Reincarnated Shiva
49x ATK / 4x RCV
Shiva is a relatively easy to use leader as you are reliant on TPA 
and have a scaling combo multiplier. While it does take 7 combos to cap on damage, you can still match a TPA with fewer and sweep through most content. Fully maxed out Shivas will hit for about 2 million damage with a single fire TPA and a total of 7 combos. You should be running the +HP Badge while prioritizing TPA cards.
| Sub | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
           |
| Offensive double orb: |
     |
| Damage Enhance: |
  |
| Defensive double orb: |
   |
| Full board changer: |
  |
| Bind Clearing: |
  |
| Damage Mitigation: |
    |
| Delays: |  |
| Gravity: |  |
| Bases for SI: | |
| Sample teams: |
MOMtastic
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Xiang Mei
2.25x HP / 81x ATK healer types
Xiang Mei has quickly fallen out of the Meta due to the power of Heart Crosses. This is not to say she cannot clear content, but she is simply slower, more restrictive, and lacks consistency in end game content. Please read my Full Review for more detailed information.
Staple subs:
- Xiang Mei fills up your sub slot and becomes reliant on Skill Inheritance to shine while providing haste and heart orb generation.
- Gadius is unbindable and provides heart and fire orb generation with his full board changer and recover bind
awakening. Just be careful as he lacks a skill bind resist 
awakening. - Uriel is another essential sub who possess a double orb changer to spawn fire and heal orbs. Has perfect synergy with Gadius’s full board changer. Dupes are encouraged.
Viable subs:
- Valen provides a 30% damage reduction shield for 4 turns on a 6-turn cooldown should you require damage mitigation. With Xiang Mei’s haste component, you an have nearly 100% uptime.
Laila produces full horizontal line of fire orbs at the bottom row of the board. This enables you to automatically form a row, just be careful you have sufficient heart orbs present.- Red Riding Hood has a water to heart orb active along a 3-turn bind clear.
Christmas Echidna (or regular Echidna 
) provides 3 turns of delay which becomes vital when dealing with dangerous bosses who have either resolve/perseverance or dangerous kill mechanics
Party Fox, Mitsuki (NY REM) promises a festive time with her double orb to heart active and 1 turn haste. Can also use the regular Mitsuki 
from the REM.
Mamiya comes from the Fist of the North Star Collab and features a jammer and water to fire orb changer along with 20% reduction to dark damage via 4 
awakenings.
Kiriko is a rare pull from the Shinarabansho Choco Collab and provides a full board changer into fire, light, and heart orbs.
Gadius
1.82x HP Dragon type
42.25x ATK (
and heart orb reliant)
Gadius is quite outdated due to the fact that far stronger options exist. However, if you are keen on playing him, it can still work.
Shiva Dragon
39x ATK 6.25x RCV for Fire Gods
Shiva Dragon is a premiere speed farming leader that has an unconditional 39x ATK to fire Gods. You are able to stack either TPA or rows and are able to deal spectacular damage with minimal effort. There is no “perfect” team for him and it is mostly using the cards that you have been given to succeed while countering the dungeon mechanics. Due to your amazing RCV, you can easily stall for skills.
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
 |
| Double orb: |     |
| Damage Enhance: |
|
| Full board changer: |
|
| Bind Clearing: |
|
| Damage Mitigation: |
|
| Base for SI: | |
| Gravity: | |
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Horus
45.56x ATK 2.25x RCV when skill used & match R,B,G,L,D
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
 |
| Damage Enhance: |
|
| Full board changer: |
   |
| Bind Clearing: |
|
| Damage Mitigation: |
 |
| Delays: |       |
| Gravity: |  |
| Skill lock Resist  : |
 |
| Sample teams: |
|
Raoh
2.25x HP / 20.25x ATK (Attack and Devil, based)
OR
+ 
Raoh + Freyr
1.5x HP / 14.625x ATK / 2.5x RCV (Attack and Devil, based)
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Orb changers: |
     |
| Damage Enhance: |
  |
| Full board changer: |
|
| Bind Clearing: |
 |
| Damage Mitigation: |
|
| Delays: | |
| Gravity: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Sumire
56.25x ATK / 75% Damage reduction shield.
Heart Crosses & 5o1e
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single Orb Changer: |
      |
| Double Orb Changer: |
   |
| Full board changers: |
 |
| Bind clearing: |  |
| Damage Enhance: |    |
| Utility: |  |
| Delay: | |
| Sample teams: |
|
Umisachi & Yamasachi
56.25x ATK (water, wood, light, and dark)
Full Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
      |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Rukia
56.25x ATK / 2.25x RCV (Combo based, Water TPA )
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Orb changers: |
        |
| Damage Enhance: |
|
| Full board changer: |
 |
| Bind Clearing: |
|
| Damage Mitigation: |
Skill Inheritance |
| Delays: | |
| Gravity: | |
| Niche: |    |
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Lakshmi
56.25x ATK / 2.25x RCV (heart and 
reliant)
/ 
Awoken I&I + Ryune
2x HP / 14.06x ATK / 2.5x RCV
Full Guide
Also applies to
Sarasvati
100x ATK (3 water combos, row based)
Full Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
     |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
   |
| Full board changers: |
  |
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Andromeda
25x ATK (10 connected water orbs, )
Neptune Dragon
36x ATK / 2.25x RCV (God types, reliant, match 11 water orbs)
Can be successfully paired with 
Read why HERE
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Blue Sonia
14x ATK / 6.25x RCV for Physical & Dragon Types
Video showcasing high end game play
Kaede
64x ATK / 75% Damage reduction shield. Heart Crosses & TPA
Full Analysis
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single Orb Changer: |
        |
| Double Orb Changer: |
  |
| Full board changers: |
 |
| Bind clearing: |  |
| Damage Enhance: |     |
| Utility: |  |
| Sample teams: |
|
Ronove
Corresponding Post:
2.5x ATK with 3 colours (not hearts). 0.5x ATK for each additional orb type, up to 3x at 4+ colours. 4x ATK & 35% damage reduction shield with heart cross
144x ATK / 57.75% damage reduction
16x ATK with heart cross and 2 or less colours
9x ATK with no heart cross and 4+ colours
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single Orb Changer: |
  |
| Double Orb Changer: |
  |
| Full board changers: |
    |
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage Enhance: | |
| Utility: |  |
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Bastet
36x ATK (7 combos, reliant)
OR
Kushinadahime
2.25-144x ATK (God type, 3-20 combos)
| Single orb changers: |
     |
| Double orb changers: |
     |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
 |
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: |  |
| Delay: | works better for  |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
 |
| Sample teams: |
|
Green Sonia
14x ATK / 6.25x RCV
OR
+ 
Green Sonia + Sylvie
2x HP / 12.19x ATK / 2.5x RCV
| Single orb changers: |
 |
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
 |
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: |  |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
/
Awoken Freyja & Sylvie
2x HP / 14.06x ATK / 2.5x RCV
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Parvati
56.25x ATK / 2.25x RCV (heal orb and reliant)
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+ AND
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample team: |
|
Awoken Astaroth
2.25x HP / 20.25x ATK (Devil & Healer, 
reliant)
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
 |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: |  |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Spica
16x ATK, 51% damage reduction vs fire, water, light, and dark
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Miru / Myr
49x ATK / 75% Damage reduction shield.
Heart Crosses & Light Rows 
Full Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single Orb Changer: |
       |
| Double Orb Changer: |
     |
| Full board changers: |
  |
| Bind clearing: |  |
| Damage Enhance: |  |
| Utility: |   |
| Delay: | |
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
Leader Skill:
4x ATK when matching 4 elements. 1.5x ATK for matching 5 connected light or water orbs. Up to 2.5x ATK when matching 7+
Full Review and Discussion
| ROLE | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
       |
| Full board changers: |
  |
| Damage Enhance: |
   |
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
  |
| Delay: |  |
| Gravity: | |
Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali
56.25x ATK (match Fire, Water, Light, Dark & 6+ Combos)
Full Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
    |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Sakuya
25-100x ATK (Fire, Water, Wood, Light scales to 10 combos)
Full Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Damage Enhance: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Delay: | |
| Gravity: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample team: |
Ideal
|
Awoken Ra
100x ATK (God types, match R,B,G,L,D)
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample team: |
Ideal
|
/ 
Saria + Awoken Thor
2x HP / 14.06x ATK / 2.5x RCV
Full Guide
Awoken Amaterasu
16x ATK, 10x RCV healed per turn (Healer and or based)
OR mix and match with
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Offensive orb changers: |
  + |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
 |
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Ra Dragon
144x ATK / 2.25x RCV for Gods when matching
R/B/G/L/D/H
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Orb changers: | Cannot use |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
 |
| Gravity: |   |
| Delay: | |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
Arena 1
|
Yomi Dragon
36x ATK / 2.25x RCV (Dark Gods, match 5 orb 1 enhance)
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
  |
| Double orb changers: |
    |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | has and is bind immune |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
Arena 1
|
Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
1.82x HP / 16.4x ATK / 1.82x RCV (God & Devil 
based team)
Full Guide
Arena Strategy Guide
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
   |
| Double orb changers: |
  |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
 |
| Full board changers: |
 |
| Bind clearing: |  |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: |   |
| Orb changer combos: |
/ +
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
Arena 1
|
Typhon
1.82x HP Dragons
42.25x ATK (heart and reliant)
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
     |
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
needs |
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Yomi
56.25x ATK (5 orbs, 1 enhanced, 7 combos)
OR
Castor
16x ATK, 51% dmg reduction R,B,G,L (5o1e)
Also can mix with
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
+
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Anubis
16-400x (9-12 combos, dark monster)
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
Highly un-recommended as this can hinder your chances of making 9+ combo as you may be left with too many of a particular orb |
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Zaerog Infinity
36x ATK (1.21x ATK / 43.56x ATK / 1.21x RCV Dragon types)
Match 4 unique sets of dark orbs, 
desired
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
 |
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Dragon type: |
|
| Orb changer combos: |
/ +
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Dark Metatron
1.82x HP / 29.16x ATK (lower health = more damage, reliant)
Video clear of Arena 1
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
|
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Damage mitigation: |
|
| Gravity: | |
| Delay: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
/ +
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Awoken Pandora
1.56x HP / 25x ATK / 1.56x RCV (Devil and )
Pandora evolution comparison HERE
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single orb changers: |
|
| Double orb changers: |
 |
| Orb/damage enhance: |
|
| Full board changers: |
|
| Bind clearing: | |
| Gravity: | |
| Niche: | |
| Orb changer combos: |
/ +
|
| Skill lock Resist : |
|
| Sample teams: |
|
Gremory
Corresponding Post
2x ATK Devils & Balance on turn skill used. 6x ATK & 35% damage reduction with heart cross
144x ATK / 57.75% damage reduction
| SUB | |
|---|---|
| Single Orb Changer: |
  |
| Double Orb Changer: |
  |
| Full board changers: |
 |
| Bind clearing: |  Largely do not need |
| Damage Enhance: |    |
| Utility: |  |
| Sample teams: |
|
Conclusion
Let me know if I overlooked anything in the comments below.
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Mantastic Puzzle and Dragons 
I have a question regarding my game progress. Here is my box: https://twitter.com/max__pad/status/751771677768294400
Am I still at a point where I should be rolling every Godfest to build up my box, or am I to the point where I can be a bit more choosy in which godfests I want to roll in for specific cards?
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Well the answer to that question is what kind of teams do you want to run and currently run? Who are you using to clear your current content with? You have the makings of several teams (I noticed you are quite strong in water with a I&I and future Sarasvati team
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I’m a bit of a mess in terms of what teams I run, as I have the starting a of quite a few teams and my king dragons and tamadras sometimes get spread a little thin. Here’s my team list:
Current/Main:
-Awoken DQXQ (Wukong/Venus/Susano/Apollo, will be Apollo/Wedding Izanami/Sakuya/Baal with Py’s and tamadras)
-Awoken Pandora (Persephone/Loki/DValk/Lilith, will switch Loki for Lu Bu once his Uuevo comes out, I’ll prob also switch Lilith for Hanzo once I max skill him)
-Awoken Ra (DKali, Isis, Indra, Sun Quan)
-Hathor (Ra, Susano, Loki, Indra; I know this team isn’t too good, I am prob about to retire this team)
Future/WIP:
-*I&I/Ryune* (BValk, Blonia, Karin, Sun Quan or Isis, whichever appropriate for dungeon; my main concern is that Norsebounds are starting to fall out of the meta, but it can probably be easily reworked into a Sarasvati team)
-*Raoh/Freyr* (Sanada Yukimura, Leilan, Ronia, Cao Cao; same concern for this team as with I&I)
-*Saria/Thor* (DQXQ, Hathor, Wukong, Apollo; again, Norsebounds are falling out of the meta.
-*Blonia* (I&I, Karin, Isis, Uuevo Sara)
-Sarasvati (Blonia, BValk, I&I, Sumire)
The WIP teams I marked *like this* are teams that I’m hesitant to build because I think that Awoken DQXQ will overshadow them and there’s no real need to make them. The only WIP team I think can challenge DQXQ is Sarasvati; and although I have decent subs for her, I worry I won’t have enough orb generation to play her effectively.
As always, much thanks for your analysis & help. I would be in a very different place PAD-wise without you.
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Your future DQXQ looks solid as you cover all your figurative bases with a shield, bind clear/gravity, double/single orb change, AND all the colours. Only thing you may need is a delay (but thats what coop/SI is for)
Unless you are starved for RCV, Lilith is not needed for Pandora and competes for the damage enhance slot
The Norsebounds are still strong. They are only struggling in Annihilation level content but are gaining some ground back with coop as you don’t need to stall as much due to 4 more actives. You can still clear Arena 2 with them but I would invest more into the water one as you have a future in Sarasvati (do not bring I&I for her as you dont need more damage)
Glad to be of help =D
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Hey mantastic. Finally discovered your content a few weeks ago I gotta say I’ve gotten better since! Anyway. Is kirko collab one or collab two? I’m putting Xiang Mei team together and still missing a few subs. Don’t wanna waste eggs on the wrong one
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Glad you enjoy my content =)
What do you mean by collab one or two? Kiriko is a 5-star pull from the Shinrabansho collab.
Who do you have on your XM team currently?
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finally looked into replies! scorching uriel x2 and gadius (all of which i got during the 55 mill gfe) and red riding hood.
as far as the shin collab i was thinking wrong. was thinking of the dungeons instead of the rem
sorry i didn’t get back sooner!
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That’s alright, thankfully WordPress is very good about giving me notifications, even on older comments =)
As for your team, it looks pretty solid, especially since Red Riding Hood got a buff!
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Hello !
I love your blog and it has been a real PADformation goldmine to me.
Are planning on doing a Awoken Liu Bei analysis ?
Keep up the good work !
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Thank you for the kind words =D
I am currently in the process of completing my Liu Bei analysis so hang tight!
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No mention of Christmas Paulina for sumire team damage enhance :O?
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She does work!
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red valk as a leader with shiva dragon kills it. double uriel, gadius, Ares
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That is an interesting idea! What kind of content do you clear with that?
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What do you think about Fafnir becoming a budget heart cross leader now?
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Defiantly budget lol a lack of time extend will hurt his viability and has no ideal wood pairing (outside himself)
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I am wondering about ra dragon teams. I have never been lucky enough to pull an indra, and I’m not sure how important the full 100%skill bind resist is. I recently pull beach metatron and her new evo has dual sbr. If I took the usua double kali as subs amd replaced isis/indra with something like beach meta/susanoo would this be a good idea. My susanoo is g/l so he is still a god.
Sorry if this is hard to read, I just woke up.
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Well the thing with Ra Dragon is that he has become significantly more versatile due to coop and now the badge system. The key is still the dual Kali for access to board changers. As for your other subs, I would pick who can help you the most. You can address the SBR via badges, but outside of Susano, your entire team is bind immune so you can inherit more utility onto metatron.
I would say go for it if you enjoy the playstyle as you have the dual Kali
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Susanoo is bind immune. Lol, was thinking of inheritting muse to meta. I haven’t scored high enough for the sbr badge and I’d honestly prefer not to waste the badge on that one.
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The badge system is like u have infinite badges of that. You’re free to put whatever badge u want on whatever team, different teams can have the same badge, u can switch what badge u want on what team at any time for no cost whatsoever, u just can’t have two badges on one team.
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I know; I meant that I’d not want to use the badge slot for this team on that one. My bad.
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I know, I meant that I don’t have the sbr badge atm. And even if I did have it, I’d like to use a different badge over something like sbr.
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My mistake, I thought G/L wasn’t bind immune
Muse on Meta would ensure you pierce through the Kali 65% danger zone in Arena so that is a viable option as you have no use for the bind clear
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hello sir tastic. i’ve been thinkiing of getting a new 300k monster. possible yomi or mr armpits. then again i may just wait for the new wave but an i wait that long? if i’m linking this right here is my padherder. https://www.padherder.com/user/dakkon316/monsters/#31,1,31,8191,4294967295_63,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0
please take a gander and let me know what you think. i have a few ideas but another opinion is welcome. also do you have a ult ult cao cao review and analysis in the works?
thanks for your time and keep doing what your doing. its been fantabulous!
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First off, you have a very powerful XM team and you have Uriel, Uriel, Gadius, but who is your final sub? Another XM is a very powerful option if you enjoy that playstyle
Due to the power of your XM team, neither YY or Yomi D will allow you to clear more content as a leader. Yomi D works as a very strong sub on Lucfier or A Yomi teams, but they wont be able to clear more content than your XM
If you buy a new MP card that isnt XM, you are mostly giving yourself new teams to play with, not a step forward for content clearing
Also, I love your wording =)
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Thanks for the input. My final sub is currently red riding hood for the bond clean since I have no inherenace on the other subs. I’ve thought about another XM but, while I enjoy her play style I do a lot of co op with myself. I’ve been running ideas in my head to clear more content using co op. My alt account has some nice hitters ( I list at the end of post) so I’ve been been thinking along those lines. I admit I have a TON of practice to go with XM. And personally I like changing things up a lot. I’m currently work up a cao cao team (love row team for some reason) a shiva team and hoping to pull a A lui bei soon since I have the subs I want for a team (alt account has him already…). Highest content I’m looking at getting up to by years end is mech Hera.
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Oh yeah alt monsters! Hah I guess the power of liu bei distracted me again 😉
So here we go!
Ult ult lu bu. Sephiroth. Cruel Pandora. Dtron. Dk Cecil. A tsuk. Goetia. Grisar. Nearly all are max lvled and fully awoken
Hehe Also I just farmed up my first zerog. For yomi d if I were to buy him
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Z8 is not a good Yomi Dragon sub as he is not a god so loses out on the full multiplier
If a second XM is not as desirable, then it would be best to wait for the next wave of MP cards to be released
I also lack a LB on Mantastic and I have been able to use Australis + LB and it is able to clear M+ Devil Rush, Linthia etc. I wont be able to do Myr, but I still get around it =P Could also use Perseus
And there is nothing wrong with switching it up =)
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I’ve been thinking its best to hold off until the next batch of mp monster are announced. As far as my want for liu I was think australis would be a decent replacement until the rng show me some love. I still need to evolve and skill up all of the monsters on both teams. So much work left to do but it’ll be a fun road to puzzle down!
Thanks for the insight and keep the puzzle training coming 😀
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Glad to be of help and you are very welcome!
And having things to do keeps the game exciting!
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Hey Mantastic,
I have a decent water box and am now trying to decide if I want to invest my resources into a Sumire or Sarasvati team. My water box consists of: Sarasvati, Blonia, BValk, Sumire, I&I, Karin, Isis, Sun Quan, Sadalmelik, and Alrescha. My possible teams are:
Sarasvati, Karin. Sumire, Blonia, Bvalk
Sumire, I&I, Isis, Sarasvati, Sadalmelik
Which would be a better lead to invest in, and if so, what subs should I use?
As always, much thanks for all your help.
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Are you mostly playing in solo or coop? Also, what kind of content do you clear atm and what are your other main teams?
Sarasvati is better in coop due to more HP, actives, skill boosts, etc. She also one shots things but has low survivability
On the other hand, Sumire is a better solo lead and is more stable due to the shielding
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I play very dominantly in solo, and my current team is DQXQ. I can clear pretty much any mythical with it and I’m working on Arena.
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Then I would continue to invest in DQXQ as she is the stronger solo lead and much more flexible. Sara is more of a niche team you bring out for very specific dungeons
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APersephone should be on this list- right? When the buff comes to NA she is a 2.25/20.25/2.25 tank beast. I’m trying to figure out a full sub list, but the obvious: Tyhpon, Okuninushi, ALoki, Castor, Haku, & Lumiel. Maybe some of the Blue/Dark orb changers like Ryune or Blonia? Can anyone think of good active combos? I run a Pers/Typhon/Typhon/Loki/Okun. team, mostly from not having some of the better subs, but those fire orbs are kind of useless. Castor seems like heart breaker overkill. Loki gets you to 44x, with any good TPAs you can clear most of the content of the game with your ridiculous HP (50,000+) and RCV.
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I will try to put her in soon!
As for your team queries, Castor is slight overkill on heart breaking although his God Killer is very welcomed. Using Ryune/Blonia as an inherit is a much better idea instead of diluting your damage (can use them on Castor!)
Typhon is a powerful card, but his active is a bit luck reliant without help. You could always inherit those other board changers to retain his body/awakenings.
Prob with both Loki/Oku is you are somewhat losing their benefits due to both enhancing. How vital is the delay or loki for you?
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Loki is vital for a kill shot most of the time right now, as the buff hasn’t come to NA yet- so only a 14x ATK. Oku is decent for safety or a little extra atk, but with the high HP/RCV safety isn’t really necessary! I run them both because I don’t have other great subs for her, my dark box is not very deep, top heavy strangely. 2x Typhon, APersp, ALoki, Oku, Castor, Yomi, Sheen, Fenrir, DKali, Zuoh, Satsuki, Finn, Gremory (just pulled), thought of using Ryune. Obviously a lot of these aren’t relevant for her though! I don’t even have a Hanzo to Fire->Dark inherit or anything! The extra fire orbs can be bad, but with 2 Persephones you have a good stretch of dark skyfall+. Great tank lead, low active synergy for me right now, will probably do a Ryune active onto Castor in the future. I feel like there’s more potential somewhere, so I was looking here/around and didn’t see much on her for team building, so thanks!
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She is not as popular now due to tank teams struggling in higher end content. Gremory can be strong, but also risky as you may remove your water orbs. I guess looking at your options, you do not have too much synergy to work with =(
At least you can stall out most floors and if the delay does help, you should continue to run him
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I just got DQXQ and the awoken materials! I told myself not to pull but Light Gala was too tempting. I read your article about her and saw your Miru run and I hope in a couple of months I can get one. Been running Gadius and the damage seems to stall sometimes. I was thinking DQXQ / LValk / Wedding Iza / L/D Venus (don’t have materials yet for Awoken) and not sure on last.
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I have been doing some more research today and I saw an interesting concept to run Gadius on an A. DQXQ team. I am already heavily invested into him and am thinking of trading out Wedding Iza for him. He can clear binds and has a devil killer. Not the best but I think it would be easy to activate the leader skill with his board refresh. What do you think?
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The thing with Gadius’s refresh is you are gambling on the number of light orbs and cannot use any active to correct it.
I personally love Wedding Iza as she adds an amazing amount of damage. Gadius would be more of a situational card imo.
What are your other options for the final sub slot if you do not run Gadius
Also, L/D Venus is reasonably strong too and has a nice built in active burst
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Verche, Ars Nova, LMeta, A Ra, or Rei Sirus/Wee Jas. I don’t have a lot of board refreshes and haven’t done a rainbow Leeds but I’m excited. Dad pulled her too but is on his Sakuya train so I’m trying to convert him :). Even if she isn’t meta, the strongest I’ve cleared was Zeus Dios today, curse you fire bind!
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Well if Gadius is your best board refresh then I would use him. If you are forced to use a board refresh, you couldn’t have activated and taking a risk on a bad board is worth it as it may still work out (statistically get 7.5 of each type per board change)
As for last slot, Verche is alright, adds more light orbs and would only use Light Meta if heavily invested or the dungeon has binds.
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Hey Mantastic, I am running a Hermes Team for decent success with mythical dungeons. Can you tell me if it is any good, or suggest alternate subs? Its a 4/16/1
Hermes/Gabriel/Red Norn/Sumire/A. Sun Quan/Hermes
Max level, Awoken, most max skilled.
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Hey darkrider554,
Do you have another water sub option for Urd and instead inherit her active onto them? Otherwise looks fine
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Thanks! I’ll play with sarasvati or sherias.
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Urd does have a wonderful active and could be inherited onto Sarasvati if max skilled.
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Ready to rumble with ADQXQ, my temptative team would be sometging like this: ADQXQ, L/D Pollux, Sun Wukong, L Kali, ASusano
I’ve got some viable subs: L/G Valk, Wedding Akechi, L/D Izanagi, LMetatron, GrOdin, Raphael, Okuninushi, Muse, Holy Night Genie and Hator
Other cards I’ve got: Alcyone, Shining Dragon Knight (SI for Bind clearing?), unevolved Izanagi (I’d like to evolve in his Awoken form), Baal and Indra, plus L/R Amaterasu and L/G Thor (time to unevolve them for their Awoken form?)
Well, I’m a bit overhelmed, any suggestion?
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I would keep Pollux and Wukong (with Wedding Akechi inherit) on your team. Light Kali is your best fire option, but you can also just run Susano for that and use a different card in Kali’s place. I would run Baal (if skilled up) in Kali’s place and swap in Metatron as needed for binds
Thus, you team would be L/D Pollux, Wukong (akechi inherit), Susano, Baal.
Also, it is better to evovle your Ama and Thor into their Awoken form
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i think u could add A.Artemis Duo Lead or A.Artemis / Balboa funny is in Japan she is one of the Top teams mostly played in a Rowstyle than TPA xD
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and playable in a mono wood team that dont use water orbs so Spica and Australis are good to use as a jammer poison clearer xD
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Hi! I am a relatively new player. I am currently rank 155. I am a non-IAP player. I have been struggling some with figuring out my team building. Who should I be using as my main leads (that can tackle late game/descends) and which subs should I be placing on their teams? Also, who should be my main priorities right now for maxing, evolving, etc.
Here is my padherder account: https://www.padherder.com/user/lizziekampe/monsters/#31,0,31,8191,4294967295_63,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0
I have one more question. A lot of different dragons have been dropping for me, do I keep all of them or what should I be doing with them? How do I figure out which drops in the game I should be keeping or get rid of, because I feel like my monster box is often full of useless monsters?
Thank you for your time!
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In general, it helps to keep all of the dungeon drops as many are used for evolving monsters etc. However, if you are running out of space, you can always sell them and reacquire later.
As for your team direction, I would recommend you start working towards Awoken DQXQ. You do have other strong leaders such as Sherias Roots and Gremory, but they require specific subs you do not own so it’s hard to work on them for now.
For Awoken DQXQ, your team could look like:
Awoken DQXQ
Sherias Roots
Valkyrie
Dark Izanami
and Sun Quan
This team will provide a delay, orb change, board refresh, and shield. I would recommend investing pluses into DQXQ and Sherias Roots as they will be used later on.
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Hello,
Recently, I have begun to mentor some IRL friends in PAD, and one of them is in quite a unique situation: he has 3 eschamalis (I’ll just skip rants about how that shouldn’t even be possible when he’s only like rank 200). Usually as a rule I just say “keep everything from the REM (with a few exceptions), even if it’s a dupe or a silver,” but the fact that Eschamali is worth 50k combined with how I don’t really see a use for more than one, maybe two for certain situations/SI, really got me thinking that it may be better to sell them. I’m sort of lost with what advice to give, what would you recommend?
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should this question be somewhere else/require myracle stones on-stream to be answered? If so I apologize for misplacing the question
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Whoops sorry, thought I replied!
Dual Eschamali can find a home on Yomi Dragon teams (especially the new evolution) as the orb enhances and active go wonderfully on a 5o1e team. Even if they are unable to ultimately evolve her, the dual Escha still provides huge passive damage on a 36x ATK team
He should also keep the third Escha for skill inheritance purposes as the active is one of the best possible on non heart cross teams
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Hi mantastic,
I think you should update this list. Some stuff is as good/fine/perfect as it is, but some other stuff lokks a bit ‘old’ nowadays. I mean, is Loki really a sub for Luci? I think it is perfect for SI and another orbchanger (esp with haste or even a 2nd Akechi) could be better.
And I miss some of the ‘newer’ leaders (ok, some are just a new version of older stuff like Oda/Lu Bu is just another ALuc/APandora…more or less).
Anyway, I
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Thank you for this great guide.
I improved my box a lot thanks to my Ryune team but now I have to muchch choice and I don’t know how to improve my team.
Can you give me some advices on how to build a team to beat the red technical dungeons ?
https://www.padherder.com/user/Lord_XEEN/monsters/#31,0,31,8191,4294967295_63,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0
Best regards
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You have Krishna so you should be focusing on him, even if you do not have perfect subs. Run Leilan, Urd, Red Sonia, and Tsubaki as subs =)
Conversely, you can run a Blue Sonia team as you have many dragon/physical subs. Run Ryune, Andromeda, B/L Hermes, and Awoken Sun Quan or Skuld as the final slot =)
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Thank you, I will try a Krishna team and modify my blue team.
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Best of luck!
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Krishna team is awesome, I S rank easily with it 🙂
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Can you do Maeda Keiji?
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His team building is similar to all the other rainbow leaders and is mostly reliant on having a bind clear and shielding sub
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Bruh, how is Yuna not in there? Best 144X lead ever.
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This post is a tiny bit outdated and does not include all the newest cards
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I just recieved a Castor and Pollux (Christmas); can you list some subs that I can use with them?
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Build them similarly to yomi dragon and use haku, akechi, eschamali, d/b oku etc
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thank you!
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You are very welcome!
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Add Ilm/Minerva maybe?
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Soon!
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Great page and content. Buffs have rendered some of your specifics out-of-date, but I can dig that you’d rather work new content instead of being in permanent rewrite/update mode. I do, however, think L/D Izanagi now deserves some love as a multi-combo lead. Pair him with some orb changers and it’s easy to trigger the 9x kicker. With dual TPA and an active spike you can generate some serious hit (for three light TPAs (no other combo) w/ active spike triggered, hyper-max L/D Izanagi dual leads are putting out close to 5M ATK each).
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I know you’re busy, but when you have time, please add Aizen and Meridionalis to this list. Both have earned huge popularity
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I am not sure how I am going to deal with this post as SI threw lots of it out the window, I may try and update it but I do need to think of a better/long term solution or a different post that encompasses team building in 2017
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I see. I hope you’ll find solution. Would really love to see post about those 2.
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I use #2657 HGE. Yamato Takeru as a lead mostly do to easy skill up through rare monster carnival and easy multiplier i cleared most normal and tech and really helped with daily mythical so i am a little bias.
+ good HP okay ATK and great RCU
+ 8 turn max skill
+ 9 awankenings – 3 skill boost
+ have option for friend lead – ie. (another for 25x,krishna,rodin,shiva dragon,gadius,and so many more) Oh! and now Ilm
PS. I am posting this because it works for me and to add to conversation, I know there are better leaders and play style differs from mine this is a great list and I hope my opinion is heard and maybe i can help someone.
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Loved this list, it helped me a lot, any chance there will be a 2017 version?
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I need to think of a way to update this efficiently….SI killed a lot of team building. I have some ideas in the works for an overhaul
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Are you going to update these list you know there’s a lot of new pad stuff out now
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in the process of it as indicated by the big disclaimer at the top. updated the top and inherit list etc
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Have a good day today, Mantastic 😀
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❤
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Thanks for taking the time to update this massive list, it’s very helpful to… probably everybody!
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Still a work in progress =D
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Hey, Mantastic, I noticed you’re planning an update to this page so I keep lurking in here to see if you post a guide for Sherias Roots.
I always found it strange you haven’t included it here before though, since he’s one of the better rainbow leads right now and you’ve included him as a sub for other cards.
I did get some insight on him from your Review and analysis from when he was released, but that wasn’t as detailed as the guides here.
So my request is, if you could include him in your update since it would help me and other players a lot 🙂
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Will try my best!
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Can you add in Tsubaki please?
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Agreed. i have been using Tsubaki for awhile and want to know your thoughts on optimizing, As I have many fire and light people Who I believe could work in clearing late content
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